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Karl Rove shares his prediction for Pennsylvania’s Senate race

INCREASINGLY CLEAR THAT THAT NEITHER CAN THE GUY AT 1600 PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE. JOINING ME A GREAT HISTORIAN IN HIS OWN RIGHT. FORMER DEPUTY WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF KARL ROVE. HOW ARE WE BACK AT THIS SPOT TODAY? >> IN 2020 WE NOMINATED AND ELECTED A PRESIDENT WHO WAS 78 YEARS OLD, AND ALREADY SUFFERING SOME CHALLENGES AND THEY HAVE ONLY GOTTEN WORSE. AND YOU ARE RIGHT. WE DIDN'T KNOW — WE DIDN'T HAVE THE EXPOSURE WE NORMALLY HAVE TO CANDIDATES BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC. AS A RESULT HE HID OUT IN HIS BASEMENT. HE DID INTERVIEWS WITH LOCAL NEWS ANCHORS VIA ZOOM. AND THAT'S WHAT THE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN WAS. THERE IS A UTILITY TO HAVING AN ACTUAL CAMPAIGN WHERE WE GET TO TAKE THE MEASURE OF THE CANDIDATE SEEKING THE HIGHEST OFFICE IN THE LAND. AND WE GOT WHAT WE GOT. BRIAN: WHAT DO YOU THINK WE GOT? DO WE HAVE A DEMOCRAT WHO WILL TAKE A SENATE SEAT FROM A CONSERVATIVE NAMED PAT TOOMEY? >> I THINK THE FETTERMAN ISSUE IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE ARE SEEING IT PLAY OUT BEFORE THE CAMPAIGN.

I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE PRIVATELY LOOKING AT THAT AND SAYING DO I THINK THAT GUY IS READY TO TAKE ON THIS TOUGH CHALLENGE AND DO I HAVE CONFIDENCE HE WILL BE ABLE TO RECOVER AND DO A GOOD JOB FOR ME. IT WILL HAVE A DEEP IMPACT ON PEOPLE'S VOTES, I THINK. THAT'S WHY THE LAST 11 AND 12 DAYS OF THE CAMPAIGN WILL BE SO CRITICAL. I THINK PEOPLE WILL BE LOOKING AT DR. OZ CLOSELY SAYING I HAVE GOT SOME DEEP CONCERNS ABOUT FETTERMAN. DO I THINK OZ SHARES MY VALUES AND WILL DO A GOOD JOB FOR ME. I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY OZ WINS.

BRIAN: THE INSIDER POLL IS THE FIRST ONE I HAVE SEEN WITH DR. OZ LEADING. IN THE REARVIEW MIRROR OF THAT ONE AND ONLY DEBATE. YOU HEARD CHUCK SCHUMER CAUGHT ON A HOT MIC SAYING WE WEREN'T HURT THAT MUCH BY THAT DEBATE. DO YOU THINK THAT'S DAMAGE CONTROL? >> I THINK HOPE SPRINGS ETERNAL. AND CHUCK SCHUMER WANTS TO HOLD ON TO HIS ROLE AND PENNSYLVANIA WILL PLAY A ROLE IN THAT. I THINK IT WAS WISHFUL THINKING. PEOPLE WILL LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS. AND I THINK THE JUDGMENT IS GOING TEND TO BE AGAINST FETTERMAN. THIS WAS REALLY PROBLEMATIC. WHY HE DID IT IS BEYOND ME. THERE IS POLITICAL MALPRACTICE ON BEHALF OF HIS HANDLERS. BUT THEY PROPER HI DID THE PEOPLE OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA A FAVOR BY PUTTING HIM IN THE DEBATE. BRIAN: AND THE COUNTRY. TO THINK SOMEBODY WITH CLEAR PROBLEMS HAS TO READ CLOSED CAPTIONS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING TO HIM CAN DO A JOB LIKE THAT? IF YOU OR I HAD THAT PROBLEM WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THIS WHAT WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW.

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